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Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.11 12:44:00 - [1] Originally by: Logit Probit Quote: Logit Probit is a scumbag who ninja-salvages other players' missions near a highsec mission hub. He's a parasite and a griefer. On top of that, he doesn't honor ransoms. He runs an association of similar players, who choose not to incorporate mainly because it makes retaliation difficult. Quote: Logit Probit may be a horrible bastard, but I'll be on my best behavior. Holy Dissociative identity disorder Batman. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.11 17:49:00 - [2] Originally by: Logit Probit The fact is that anyone who I or my mates have ever destroyed has deserved to lose their ship. Everyone from Charles Manson to Jack the Ripper convinced themselves their victims deserved it too. The ability for some people to rationalize like that allows them to do terrible things and not see themselves for what they are. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.11 18:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Logit Probit Um... IT'S A VIDEO GAME Not denying I'm mean in the game though. Why would you decide to be 'mean' in a game though? Is it safe to assume you'd act that way in real life if you could get away with it as easily, and have these desires and urges in everyday life, but hold them back and wear a mask simply because you fear your true self being revealed? My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.14 00:32:00 - [4] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 14/10/2009 00:32:00 Originally by: Governor LePetomane Should one also feel bad about beating somebody at chess? When people sit down to play a game of chess it's an understood and agreed upon competition. People aren't suddenly challenged to chess games while they try to go about their daily business, and losing in chess more often than not doesn't cause someone to lose anything of any value. It can't be compared to causing misery to random people in a video game simply because it satisfies them on some primitive level. I'm not making a giant moral judgement about people who engage in such behavior, but lets be honest; They are doing it because they enjoy making others suffer. They are sadists by every definition. They should at least have the balls to admit that instead of deluding themselves and others. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.14 14:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Governor LePetomane Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 14/10/2009 00:32:00 Originally by: Governor LePetomane Should one also feel bad about beating somebody at chess? When people sit down to play a game of chess it's an understood and agreed upon competition. Stop. This is different from undocking in Eve how, exactly? You might tell yourself that you "should" be immune to unexpected aggression, but that certainly doesn't mean you are; and I think most people understand that at some point. If they don't, that's a failure on their part. Go. Everytime we leave our house in real life we accept the possibility that we could be shot by a mugger or killed by some psychopath for no reason at all, so us having prior knowledge of the chance makes the people who do it justified somehow? I'm not saying people should be immune or anything, don't try to twist my words. All i'm saying is the people who engage in such behavior should be honest with themselves and others about why they do what they do, instead of creating delusions and justifications that allow them to see themselves as righteous while they go about cruel and sadistic behavior. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.14 14:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Malcanis In EvE, people roleplay being evil by doing evil things. In-game. But you won't see good people deciding to 'roleplay' as evil and cause others misery in a video game. You'll just see people who have those desires but can't act out on them in real life. Good people are good, in every circumstance you put them in. They might want to think everyone is like them, and because a monkey can be sadistic too it's part of our nature and that makes it ok, but i can tell you that's not the case. Some people are aversed to causing emotional suffering to others, even through a video game. This is the last time i'm going to repeat this, but my only point is that the people who decide to 'roleplay' evil shouldn't try to claim their victims, chosen at random, deserved it somehow. If you're going to be evil, don't be a ***** about it. You like causing others misery, and that's why you do it. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.14 15:02:00 - [7] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 14/10/2009 15:05:08 Originally by: Malcanis Maybe you never heard of this? It goes far beyond your little link there. Check out the Lucifer effect for added madness. Most people are weak minded. They follow the herd, doing whatever everyone else is doing, easily influenced by someone else, whether it's an authority figure or not. They don't know how to think for themselves. Not everyone is like that, though. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.10.14 15:38:00 - [8] Originally by: Emily Spankratchet Are we dealing with some sort of Platonic ideal of goodness, or is it more of a case of deterministic moral universalism? Yeah, I believe that subconsciously, or at least on some level, everyone knows 'right from wrong' as it were, they can sense it in every fiber of their being. Carl Jung said all mental illness is due to people refusing to experience genuine suffering. As soon as they start feeling guilt or remorse, it bothers them, and they come up with a different perspective on things that makes them feel better about themselves, but it's a delusion, and that's the point where people start getting out of touch with reality and what they're really doing. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.

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